Transit brainstorming …

IMG_08041[1] These are just some random ideas from a resident (me), meant to be a starting point for brainstorming.  I will post it on hawthornevillager as well to start a conversation.

  • Transit should be a big part of the urban design.  Drive along Derry, houses facing Derry should’ve been medium density, 3-4 storey condos and townhomes.  More people next to major arterial roads –> more transit customers.  That’s a missed opportunity, but lets fix it for future surveys.
  • Will it help if people with monthly passes had an option to use a taxi in case of emergencies (eg. Go train came in late and the last Milton bus left). Basically if the transit could guarantee that you’d never be stranded, perhaps more people would be open to it?
  • Go to large employers, offer them a discount and give their employees monthly passes.  Promise them good bus service.  Wait, isn’t town of Milton itself a “big employer” in town :)? Hint, hint! 
  • Investigate vanpool (I used to commute from the Snohomish County to the King County in WA. King County has 1,031 vanpool vans that provided 2.7 million rides at a cost of $0 to the municipality.  Snohomish County’s website explains the program.
  • Consider charging for parking along the Main Street and Go station after a majority of residents have access to a reliable transit service.
  • Consider limiting the number of parking spaces an employer can provide within the urban part of town (I personally don’t like it and if I were asked, would vote against it, but it worked for the City of  Redmond). 
  • Another extreme opinion, that I am against, is to increase the subsidy up to 100%.  The town runs buses and people can ride them for free.  Nothing beats free.
  • Plan new subdivisions with transit in mind.  I have written more about this in my “urban plan” series. 
  • I wonder if, on routes with low ridership, running a couple of hybrid minivans is cheaper than running a large bus that costs not much less than half a million dollars to purchase. 
  • EDIT: Should Milton think about running dynamic routes?  If you need a bus, you call a number, enter the stop # and go to the stop.  Based on demand, routes automatically adjust themselves to move people as optimally as possible.

Overall, I think transit ridership will naturally go up as the Derry Green Business Park comes online, Milton Education Village gets started and generally more people and jobs move to Milton.

So here are some of my ideas.  What are yours? 


4 Responses to “Transit brainstorming …”

cindycathy on November 19th, 2009 8:16 pm:

Milton gotrain needs to operate on weekends to and from toronto as well. More hours that can be offered for various schedules of new home owners in the Milton area is essential. This will cut down on gridlock and provide greater accessibility for those who do not wish to drive or cannot drive, as well as being more environmentally friendly as well.


Gerry Marsh on November 19th, 2009 11:34 pm:

For Milton public transit to work the buses need to go where potential riders want to go when they want to go. Today the Milton system seems to focus primarily on getting to/from the GO Train, not a bad thing during the morning/evening commute hours but what about during the rest of the day? What about riders trying to get to the mall or downtown or anywhere else to shop? Or to school (high school) or to their doctor’s office for an appointment? Or to the theatre or a restaurant/bar, you get the idea. With the system laid out as it is travel time is far too long for most people so they drive instead. Maybe more route overlap points are needed to allow transferring between routes.

The use of smaller buses makes good sense on low ridership routes. What about some sort of on demand system where a bus is only dispatched if there is a customer (sounds like a taxi doesn’t it) so maybe it would be less costly just to subsidize cabs rather than pay to have empty buses driven around town.

The absolute worst way to increase public transit ridership is to artificially make any other method less effective, public transit has to be effective in its own right.


Zeeshan Hamid on November 20th, 2009 12:32 am:

Oh ya, a large employer I know runs shuttle buses to move its 40,000 employees around. They do this thing too, you call a shuttle and then go to the shuttle stop and wait. This way routes get formed dynamically based on demand, instead of staying fixed.


Riaz on November 20th, 2009 1:58 pm:

@Gerry Marsh, You stole the words from my mouth. I am definitely in favor of having more route overlapping points rather than GO station. Also, from GO Station, there needs to be more routes, so that riders can get home sooner, rather than spending 20mins on the bus for a 5min ride (if you drive). We have to wait for the bus anyways … so potentially, my 5min ride home could take me upto 50mins (30mins wait + 20mins bus route). That is why I don’t take bus, and prefer to drive. If Transit is easily accessible and is provided on affordable cost (which makes sense), then I am all up for taking Transit.


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